Can We Talk About The Possibility That Trump Did Not Win Those Five States?

In July of 2019, election modeler Rachel Bitecofer predicted that virtually any generic Democrat would defeat President Trump in 2020.  This was long before coronavirus, mail-in ballots, impeachment, and Facebook and Twitter censorship.  Bitecofer had been the only election modeler to predict that Democrats would gain 40 House seats in the “Blue Wave” elections of 2018.   Her logic was simple.  She said most voters in America preferred Democrats, but that Trump’s “2016 path to the White House was the political equivalent of getting dealt a Royal Flush in poker”. Bitecofer claimed Democrat turnout in 2016 was way down for many reasons.  Hillary Clinton was a horrible candidate, Green Party candidate Jill Stein won many Democrat votes, Trump supporters surprisingly dominated Facebook and Twitter, and few Democrats took Donald Trump seriously.  Bitecover wrote in 2019 that “The complacent electorate of 2016, who were convinced Trump would never be President, has been replaced with the terrified electorate of 2020.  Under my model, that distinction is not only important, it is everything”.  Click here for August, 2019 Breitbart review of Rachel Bitecover predictions.

Most Republicans believe that Trump won last November. They are sure that he got more legal votes than Biden in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, and Arizona. Four years ago, most Democrats were equally convinced that the 2016 election was “hacked” by “the Russians” to defeat Hillary Clinton.

Republicans have good reasons to think Democrats cheated.  For thirty years, Democrats (with help from Bush and McCain Republicans) systematically got rid of many safeguards that kept our elections honest and respected.

  • They replaced one Election Day of voting in closely watched and supervised polling places with weeks of early voting with less supervision.
  • They replaced registration of new voters a month before the election, with last minute and automatic voter registrations at motor vehicle offices.
  • They allowed anyone to vote by mail without being sick, disabled, or having travel plans.
  • They replaced reliable mechanical voting machines having both counters and register tapes with electronic machines that could be rigged.

Last year, Democrats went even further.  They ended most in-person voting.  Ballots were mailed to every name on voter lists that are rarely updated.  Many went to addresses of voters who had died, moved, changed their names, or were fake to begin with.

  • Mail-in ballots can easily be picked up and voted, and returned by friends, relatives, or neighbors without sick or disabled voter knowing it.
  • Mail-in ballots can also be picked up and voted by well-paid “ballot harvesters”.
  • “Ballot harvesters” often watch when voters fill our mail-in ballots.  Or they don’t seal them so only ballots choosing the “right” candidates are delivered.

The vote counts in Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania looked very suspicious.  Trump had comfortable leads there until counting stopped just before midnight.  Then those leads were erased by hundreds of thousands of late arriving ballots that were overwhelmingly for Biden.

President Trump also reminded his supporters that tens of thousands of people in those states attended his rallies, while Biden events never attracted more than a few hundred.

Unfortunately, attendance at rallies is not always a good indicator of voter turnout.  During the whole campaign, and especially the first debate, President Trump acted as if his opponent were “Sleepy Joe” Biden.  However, Trump’s actual opponent was a massive combination of forces that included:

  • The Democratic Party and its “Rainbow Coalition” of dozens of “victim” groups who felt oppressed and/or offended
  • Bush-McCain-Romney Republicans
  • Almost every daily newspaper and TV network
  • Hollywood and TV entertainment industry and their celebrities
  • Facebook, Twitter, Google, and big tech
  • Wall Street Banks and the world’s biggest corporations
  • Communist China
  • Teachers, professors, and administrators of most colleges and public schools.

All of these forces had systematically and relentlessly campaigned against Trump and his supporters for four years.  They didn’t need rallies to persuade people to vote against Trump.

Last January 2, two months after the election, President Trump made a phone call to Georgia’s top election official.  Trump asked him to throw out  “at least” 11,780 Biden votes.  Trump said this could be done because:

  1.   “250,000 to 300,000” voters “dropped mysteriously” into Georgia’s voting rolls.  T
  2.    4,502 Georgia voters were not on the “voter registration list”.
  3.  18,825 voters were registered out of vacant addresses
  4.   904 voters gave only a post office box as an address
  5.   4,925 ballots were mailed out of state,
  6.  18,000 ballots were handled by a well-known “ballot harvester”.

All of those facts were known shortly after the election.  President Trump did not discuss any new evidence discovered by his legal team during the next six weeks.

Why did Trump’s lawyers let him make that call?  They certainly knew that not one of the six facts mentioned by President Trump was even close to the proof any court would require to declare any vote to be illegal.  What investigations did Trump’s lawyers do during the six weeks before that phone call?  What new evidence did they discover?

For example, what was the proof that “250,000 to 300,000” last minute registrations were illegal?  Is it possible that state election and motor vehicle officials were slow in processing them?  These are all public records.  Anyone, especially lawyers for a defeated candidate, has the absolute right to examine them.  Did Trump’s lawyers do that?  If they were denied, did they issue subpoenas and obtain court orders get them?   And why did President Trump mention this in his phone call?

Were those 4,502 Georgia voters not on the voter lists fake?  Or were they qualified voters who had the right to use “provisional ballots” because their names were mistakenly removed or not added to the voter list?  Were the 18,825 who were registered to vote out of vacant addresses fake? Or were they qualified voters living with friends or relatives who still picked up mail at their old addresses?   Did Trump’s lawyers try to reach them?  If so, what did they find?

Did Trump’s campaign call for volunteers to help his investigators check signatures on any of the 18,000 ballots turned in by that well-known “ballot harvester”?  Did they compare them to the signatures on voter registration forms?  Both are also public records that are open to public inspection.  Did Georgia officials refuse to allow such inspections?  Did Trump’s lawyers issue subpoenas or apply for court orders to get them?  If so, why didn’t Trump mention that in his phone call?  Why didn’t Trump make that call a month earlier?

Although many states don’t count mail-in ballots until Election Day, most of those ballots arrive days or weeks in advance.  The signatures on the inside envelopes can usually be checked and compared at a leisurely pace before ballots are counted.  Did state and local Republicans or the Trump campaign do that?

Last May, establishment Democrats were beaten with mail-in ballots by upstart Democrats in a local election in Paterson, New Jersey’s third largest city.  Election officials threw out 22% of the ballots when establishment Democrats showed that signatures on the ballots did not match those on voter registration records.  Did Republican officials or Trump challengers do that in Georgia, or any of the swing states?

Were there problems with Dominion voting machines in Georgia?  Or did Trump lose votes on the machines because most of his supporters voted in person on Election Day, while Democrats voted by mail.

Democrats using mail-in ballots had a much higher turnout rate because their “ballot harvesters” had weeks to systematically bring in the ballots of all their supporters.  Any candidate who waits until Election Day to bring in supporters runs the risk that some of them will be too sick, busy, careless, or lazy to show up that day.

There certainly could have been cheating by Democrats.  However, Trump was wrong to urge election officials, Vice-President Pence, and Republicans in Congress to throw out votes without presenting some admissible evidence that would hold up in a court of law.

President Trump also had no reason to assume he had won the election in a landslide.   As Rachel Bitecofer wrote in 2019, Trump was very lucky in 2016.  He won Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin with the thinnest of margins.  Trump won Pennsylvania by 44,292 votes, Wisconsin by 22,648, and Michigan by just 10,704.  Had Trump lost these three states and their 40 Electoral Votes in 2016, Hillary Clinton would have won with 272 Electoral Votes to 264 for Trump.

The certified results for 2020 showed that Trump lost Pennsylvania by 88,660 votes, Wisconsin by 20,608, and Michigan by 154,188.  In addition, Trump lost Arizona’s 11 Electoral Votes by 10,457 and Georgia’s 16 by 11,779.

Is it possible that Trump lost votes in these states because of the four- year hate campaign against him, the coronavirus infections and shut downs, and Trump’s horrible September 29 debate performance?  What makes us so sure it was all because of cheating by Democrats?

Even if nothing else had changed between 2016 and 2020, weren’t most of Trump’s 2016 supporters over the age of 50?  Didn’t many of them die during the next four years?  Weren’t they replaced by young people and immigrants indoctrinated by Hollywood, the media and the schools to hate Trump and vote for Democrats?

Los Angeles Rams Head Coach Sean McVay speaks to his team in locker room after game with San Francisco 49ers in 2018.  Photo by LA Rams.  Click here for link to video.

During the game, it is the job of the coaches and the team to protect, support and encourage the quarterback. However, after the game, it is their job to have honest conversations about what was done right and what was done wrong.  Successful teams are not afraid to give and take criticism from each other after the game so mistakes can be identified and avoided in the future.

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2 thoughts on “Can We Talk About The Possibility That Trump Did Not Win Those Five States?”

  1. Seth Grossman

    Except very few people voted for Biden. However, for a variety of reasons, many, many people voted against Trump.

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