6.20.26 Seth Grossman on WPGTalkRadio.com. Democrat candidate attacks Liberty and Prosperity. Why four Muslim nations wanted us to fight Iran.


Atlantic County Democrat candidate attacks Republican County Clerk for attending Liberty and Prosperity meetings!

Above Image: Atlantic County Clerk Joe Giralo.

  • Lisa Bender, Democratic Party candidate for Atlantic County Clerk first attacked Seth Grossman, executive director for Liberty and Prosperity. She noted that both he and Liberty and Prosperity oppose current voting laws that mandate a 45 day “harvest season” of “mail-in” and “messenger” ballots instead of one in-person Election Day.  She falsely accused them of claiming that people who use paper ballots are “drunk, under the influence of drugs or dependent on ‘free stuff’ from community organizers.” She then attacked Giralo for attending Liberty and Prosperity meetings and being an “ally” of Grossman and the Liberty and Prosperity organization.

  • Both Seth Grossman and host John DeMasi praised Giralo’s job as County Clerk. Defense of Giralo:  Grossman noted at as a lawyer who deals with the Clerk’s office, he finds that Giralo is one of the most efficient County Clerks he has deal with. He noted that deeds and other documents that once took weeks or months to process are now recorded within days. he host and Grossman praise Giralo’s efficiency and responsiveness as county clerk.

  • Grossman Explains Why Elections with In-Person Voting on One Election Day are more honest and efficient:  1. People are more willing to lie on paper forms than in-person in front of election officials. 2.  There should not be electioneering within 200 feet of polling places. With paper ballots, evdry kitchen table is a polling place. 3. In-person voting screens out people who are obviously drunk, drugged up or otherwise not competent to vote. 4. Elections must appear to be honest and give people faith in the system. This is not possible with a 45 day harvest season of paper ballots.

 

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Why Four Muslim Countries Also Wanted U.S. to fight Iran.

  • Turkey, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar and its Muslim Brotherhood all wanted the United States to fight Iran. But they never wanted us to win. 

  • Jihadis now dominate the Islamic World and they believe they are winning: They believe Muslims are willing to fight and die for their cause, while Christians, Hindus and the West would rather peacefully submit. They believe that Muslim families are having 5, 10 and 15 children, while most young people in the west are not marrying and not having any children. They don’t have to worry about supporting their children since they can count on Christian “compassion.”  There are two main branches of Islam. Most are “Sunni.” However most Muslims in Iran, Yemen, and parts of Lebanon are “Shia.” Both Sunni and Shia agree that the  entire world must at some point submit to Islam. 

  • Almost all “Sunni” Muslims agree that one “Caliph” should run the Islamic World as a Caliphate.  However, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and The Muslim Brotherhood based in Qatar each think they should be the ones running it. They all oppose Iran because Iran wants its “12th Imam” to rule the world. They want Iran to be weak. They do not want Iran to be a strong pro-American country.

EDITED TRANSCRIPT OF HIGHLIGHTS:

SETH GROSSMAN:  1676 Project: How New Jersey Shaped America:   For sale on Amazon.com for $24.95. For sale at Liberty and Prosperity Saturday breakfasts in Somers Point, and at various stores nearby:
Galloway Township:  Beachwood Trading Co.  and One Nation in Historic Smithville.
Margate:  Finds at 10 South Essex Avenue.
Ocean City:  George’s at 7th and Boardwalk and Ocean Treasures at 966 Boardwalk.
Somers Point: Rare Bird Collective, 426 Shore Road (corner of Groveland Ave.).
Seth Grossman and Liberty and Prosperity now a political issue in effort by Democrats to unseat Republican Jo Giralo as Atlantic County Clerk.
SETH GROSSMAN:  As a lawyer who deals with recording documents at the county courthouse, I can tell you personally that Joe Giralo is probably the most efficient county clerk we’ve ever had. There was a time when the county clerk clerk’s office would take two or three months to record a deed or other simple document. Now, with Joe Giralo, everything is filed and posted online within a couple days. This is good for everyone who does business with real estate in Atlantic County. So if you can’t run against somebody based on the job they’re doing, -you have to talk about issues that have nothing to do with the job you are running for. And that is exactly what Lisa Bender, the Democrat running against Joe Giralo is doing. 
Last night, she posted something on her website that said – “Seth Grossman, – leader of Liberty and Prosperity, the Atlantic County Republican candidate for Congress in 2018, – an ally of, Joe Giralo made a post – claiming that many vote by mail voters – are uninformed, – intoxicated, – dependent on government assistance, – and manipulated into voting.”. – And then she says, -“It’s worth noting – that Atlantic County Clerk Joe Giralo has appeared – and spoken before – Liberty and Prosperity meetings and with Seth Grossman, and they have shared political circles and public events for years.”
So, basically, she’s saying, “Don’t vote for Joe Giralo because he talks to Seth Grossman and goes to Liberty and Prosperity meetings.”

JOHN DEMASI:  That is so ridiculous. – That is I mean, that’s that’s the most – ridiculous – thing I have ever heard in my life. – Joe Giralo – is one of the finest individuals, first of – all, I know. – Secondly, you are right, and people don’t know – this. He’s in his office all the time. I joke with him. I say “I heard you were in the office working late the other night. Now you’re going into the office at a quarter-to-seven in the morning. He’s in there at 6:30 A.M. He’s all over the county. So, I – mean, – there is nobody better – than Joe Giralo. – And you know, – leave it to the Democrats to make an – issue out of something that isn’t an issue. 
SETH GROSSMAN: Well, you see what they’re doing. They want to say Seth Grossman is radical and extreme. They’re goal is to goad Joe into saying, oh, Seth – Grossman. I never heard of him. I don’t support these things. I just dropped by a Liberty and Prosperity breakfast once in a while because I was hungry and the serve a nice breakfast at Sal’s.
But I want to make it clear, and I’ve been saying this for years. So called “mail-in ballots” that are collected by “community organizers” over a 45 day period are awful for many reasons. We need to return to in-person voting on one Election Day. I’ve been talking about this since 2020 when Trump lost that election. A lot of people claimed it was a stolen election and that there was massive fraud.
And I said, yes, there is some fraud in every election. But I said that most of the ballots that went against were signed by genuine people. However, they were harvested by community organizers over a 45 day period and many of them were drunk, on drugs, homeless, or all of those things and had no idea who they were voting for. And there was probably more fraud than usual. But you couldn’t prove fraud in any court. Than is because when you mail in ballots and don’t see the voters, you have no idea who voters are, where they really live, or whether they are capable of voting. You just see names of people on piece of paper.
That is why I have proposed for years that the only way to fix this is – to go back to in-person voting on one Election Day where everybody shows no ID. Because here are the problems with 45 days of mailing in or dropping in paper ballots.
1. Mail-in voting encourages fraud. I know as a lawyer that many, many times, people who are willing – to sign false papers or lie in an affidavit – in a lawyer’s office – are not willing to say that same lie – in person in front of a judge. We know for a fact that with welfare – and unemployment claims, – you had a lot less fraud when people – had to go in person – and pick up their check – and swear in-person that they were looking for work that they were qualified for the benefits, that that everything they signed for on their forms was true. People are just more willing to lie quietly on a piece of paper privately, when they are not face-to-face in front of a public official.  It’s human nature. I’ve seen it.
2. In-person voting prevents electioneering within 200 feet of a polling. In my history book, The 1676 Project, I point out that one of the greatest reforms that the founders of New Jersey started in 1676 was the idea of a secret ballot. Every voter had to appear in person on Election Day and put his or her ballot into a sealed Ballot Box so that everybody could see in person that every vote was genuine, and that every voter was real. We had that system for more than 300 years, and it worked! There was no reason to change it. 
Now there’s no electioneering within 200 feet of the polling place when you have in-person voting on Election Day. But when you have mail-in and messenger ballots, every kitchen table and living room becomes a polling place. And we’ve all seen what happens: You have bullying, intimidation, – undue influence, all sorts of sorts of things. You – know, you have grandma at the kitchen table filling out her ballot, and a whole lot of people looking over her shoulder. Do you think her vote might be influenced by those people around her? Do you think she might vote for someone else if she were in a public polling place with the curtain closed?
3. In-person voting screens out people who are drunk, under the influence of drugs, or otherwise mentally incompetent. Well, if it’s if it’s not safe to – to drive a car, – when you’re drunk or under the influence – should you have the power to choose people who will have the power to run our lives for the next three or four years? – When you have in person voting, you observe – if someone walks in there, if they’re capable – of, – voting. – You don’t have that with mail in ballots. 
4. Elections should be not only fair, but they should also appear to be fair. So when you have an election where all of the in-person votes are counted on Election Night, and one candidate is up by a few thousand votes. – And then you have three weeks of counting – ballots, and it turns out that 95% – of all the last-minute ballots – go for a different candidate, many people will think something’s not right and that the system is rigged, even if it’s not. And the only – way to fix that is to have in person voting on one Election Day.
And so I’m not ashamed of what I said about – in person – voting with an ID. It is a far more honest and reliable way to elect our leaders than this 45 day paper ballot harvest season that we have now.
So if Democrats want to say any Republican who agrees with this should be disqualified as a racist or a bigot, I think they are giving Joe Giralo a great opportunity to talk about this. He can say that as our County Clerk, he can see how in-person voting on one Election Day is a lot less expensie, less complicated, and more honest. That’s what the SAVE Act in Congress is all about.
Now of course, if anybody is genuinely handicapped, or sick, or physically can’t get to a polling place, we had absentee ballots with doctor’s notes for years. And there was no problem with that.
JOHN DEMASI: It’s it’s ripe for fraud. You’re absolutely right. – It is ripe for fraud. – And So so I think I agree. Yeah. – I agree. Definitely agree. 
SETH GROSSMAN: I don’t have, time to to talk much about the war in Iran. However, I do want to bring up certain important facts that are not being reported.
First, Israel and America both have the same enemies. These enemies want to destroy America as much as they want to destroy Israel.
First, you have Islamists who want to take over the whole world for Islam. Second you have Communists, or Socialists, or woke progressives, or whatever label these leftists want to use at a particular moment. They also want to take over the world.
And both the Islamists and the leftists use the same methods to attack and destroy normal countries like Israel and the United States. They claim that because these countries are not perfect, they are evil.
And so they will say, look at these people in Israel. They have people who made mistakes. They did stupid things. Careless things. And then they say that because of this, Israel is evil. And they say the same thing about America.
But you can’t condemn a whole country because some people at some time do something that with hindsight, is stupid, careless, or bad.  You need to use critical thinking. You need to say, what happened to these people first to make them do what they did. How would most people respond? Are the people in Israel responding better or worse than most other people in the world. What are people in the countries fighting Israel doing? Are they better or worse?
And these same Islamists and the same leftists are attacking the United States in the same way. They take a few events completely out of context and claim the America is a racist, hateful country. They look at us under a microscope and look at every problem we have in great detail, while completely ignoring what is going on in the rest of the world. This give people a completely distorted sense of reality.
And its even worse than that. If they put your country under a microscope and can’t find anything bad that happened this week, they will attack us for doing something bad last week.  Or last month. Or last year. Or a hundred years ago.  Again, while completely ignoring what the rest of the world was doing.
That’s what the whole fake Juneteenth holiday that we had yesterday was all about. Yes, about 160 years ago, most Blacks who lived in the South were slaves, and that was horrible. And we should know about it. But shouldn’t we also know that most white Americans knew it was wrong, and that millions of them fought in a long war to end it. And that 310,000 white men died in that war to end slavery?
And you and I growing up in the – fifties – know what a wonderful place America was for everybody In the 1950s and 1960d, Blacks and whites went to school – together. We worked summer jobs together. We, – played on sports teams together. We, you know, – went into our own businesses. When we went out, we didn’t even lock the door. We didn’t even close the door. – In the summertime, we had these flimsy screen doors.  You could walk safely in any neighborhood day or night. – Was it a perfect society? – Of course not. There were some jerks. There – were some bullies. There were some ignorant people – out there, but you don’t condemn a whole – society because of a handful of people. But that’s exactly what the left did to America during the past sixty years. They sold the idea that America was evil because we were not perfect. So we changed everything, – and we’re in a much worse worse situation – now than we were fifty years ago. So – I think we have to remember that. 
And that’s exactly what they are doing to Israel right now. They are saying that because Israel is not perfect, it is evil and it must be destroyed.
And we also need to remember that Israel is not the only country that benefitted from America attacking Iran. There are four major Muslim countries that wanted us to do that even more than Israel.  They are Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Qatar and its Muslim Brotherhood.
Why did these four Muslim countries want us to attack the Islamic Republic of Iran? It may sound ridiculous, but most Muslim leaders think they are on the verge of taking over the world. First, they are loaded with oil money. Second, t
But their most powerful weapon are their women and their babies. They say you Americans, you Europeans, you only – have one or two kids. Many young Europeans and Americans don’t have any kids. They are not getting married. They are pursuing careers. They are doing LBGT.  Meanwhile Muslims are having seven, eight, nine, fourteen, 15 kids.
Now back in the old days, it was common for every family to have 5, 6 or even a dozen kids. But most of them would die before adulthood from – war, starvation, plague, all that stuff. But thanks – to the Western world, – with our wonderful science and technology, and our food aid and medical help, Muslim families are still having 5, 10, 12 or 15 kids and they are all living to be adults.
That is how Muslims took over Christian Lebanon. That’s how they took over French Algeria. That’s how Blacks ook over Rhodesia and South Africa. 
They have all the babies they want. When they don’t have enough food, they run those emotional ads on TV. And of course we are so compassionate that we give them all the food and medicine they need. So of course they think that they will soon take over the world.
So we don’t have any friends in the Islamic world. Muslim leaders in Turkey Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the Muslim Brotherhood of Qatar all want to take over the world.  If they destroy Israel and replace it with Palestine, do you think they are all going to say, we’re happy now? Do you think they will then let everyone live in peace? Of course not. They will be even stronger, and more aggressive.
So why would these Muslim countries want America to fight Iran?  First, you have to understand that Muslim leaders don’t believe in independent nations. That’s a European thing. That’s an American thing. That’s a Western thing. They believe that when they finally succeed in taking over the world, they will have something called a Kalifa or a caliphate. That is where one leader, a caliph runs the entire Islamic world as a Caliphate.  That is a big Muslim dictatorship, like you have in Iran.
Now Islam had a Caliphate for 1,400 years. At one time, it was run by Muslim Arabs out of Baghdad. For 500 years, until World War One, it was by Turks out of Istanbul in what was called the Ottoman Empire. I explained it in my book, the 1676 Project.
So now, you have five Muslim countries that want to run that Caliphate. One of them is Iran.  They think that if they destroy Israel and America, their 12th Imam will come out of hiding and rule the world.
Most other Muslim leaders think the Iranians are nuts. They each think they should be running the Caliphate.
The Turks, run by Erdogen want Iran to be weak so they can run the Caliphate again, like they did for 500 years. The Saudis think they should run the Caliphate because they are Arabs and control the oil and the holy cities of Mecca and Medina.
Pakistan’s leaders think they should run the Caliphate. They are disciples of the Deoband school in India who have been leading the jihad movement since the days of Gunga Din and the Bengal Lancers that were in all those old Erol Flynn movies about British India. Pakistan also has nuclear bombs.  Pakistan has ties to the Taliban in Afghanistan, and that’s where Osama Bin Ladin lived comfortably for 15 years after the September 11th attacks.
And the fourth country is Qatar. That is a small country with a lot of money. It is tied to an underground movement called the Muslim Brotherhood. Qatar runs Al Jazeera and gives lots of money to Jihad groups all over the world.  Including the United States.
None of these four Muslim countries are friends of America. They all want to destroy us. However, they are afraid of Iran right now, so they wanted America to attack Iran.
However, they never wanted us to win the war. The last thing they want is a strong, free, prosperous pro-American Iran.
By the way, that is the real reason we have all these endless wars. The Saudis, the Pakistanis, the Turks, and Qatar all want us to fight their enemies from time to time. But they never want us to win. They did not want a democratic, pro-American Iraq. They did not want pro-American Kurds. They did not want Christians to be safe and strong in Syria or Lebanon…
  • Seth Grossman

    Seth Grossman is executive director of Liberty And Prosperity, which he co-founded in 2003. It promotes American liberty and limited constitutional government through weekly radio and in-person discussions, its website, email newsletters and various events. Seth Grossman is also a general practice lawyer.

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