- Remember Richard Somers on September 4, the day he died in Tripoli in 1804.
EDITED TRANSCRIPT OF SETH GROSSMAN INTERVIEW WITH JOHN DEMASI ON WPG TALK RADIO, 95.5FM 1450AM:
August 22, 2026
1. Ceremony to remember Richard Somers on September 4 is as important as remembering September 11.
2. Our book 1676 Project explains why “reparations” in New Jersey is ridiculous.
3. Trump added $10 trillion to create America’s $40 trillion national debt.
4. Jihad is only certain way to guarantee forgiveness of sin and eternal life in Paradise.
5. When America was great, people were free to decide what to build on their own land.

SETH GROSSMAN: Richard Somers, who was born in Somers Point, New Jersey, died in Tripoli, in North Africa, on September 4, 1804. He died in America’s first foreign war. He died fighting the same people who did the same thing to Americans that the Iranians, the Houtis, and the Islamic State ISIS people are doing to Americans right now.
Every year on September 4, we celebrate how that sacrifice made by Richard Somers, and all 12 men on his ship, Intrepid, and the American Marines who later went to the Shores of Tripoli kept Americans safe around the world for the next 150 years.
When you learn the story of Richard Somers, you understand that the reason we have terrorism and war, and riots and chaos around the world today is because Americans have stopped doing what Richard Somers and those other young Americans did all the time back in 1804.
We need to tell that story to more people. We need more people to learn that lesson. Our ceremony to remember Richard Somers and to tell that story will be one week from next Friday, September 4. It will be at 10 in the morning, the Friday before Labor Day. The details are posted on our Liberty and Prosperity.com website.
Only a few dozen people will be with us to remember Richard Somers. A lot more people will be at ceremonies to remember the attacks on America that happened on September 11, 2001.
However, if you had a choice of going to just one of those events, you will draw a lot more useful lessons from our ceremony to remember Richard Somers. Here’s why.
The story of Richard Somers explains who attacked, and kidnapped and murdered Americans back in 1804, and why they did it. It also explains what we had to do, and what we did to stop them.
Some 3,000 Americans were attacked and murdered on September 11, 2001 by those very same people. And yet hardly any of the ceremonies to remember the victims of September 11, 2001 say a word about who killed them, why they killed them, or what we need to do to stop them from killing Americans again.
em say nothing about who killed them, why they killed those Americans, and what we need to do to stop them from attacking us again and killing more Americans.
However, all of those questions are answered when you learn the story of Richard Somers
2. Our 1676 Project history book explains why “reparations” in New Jersey are ridiculous.

JOHN DEMASI: You know, I had never heard of Richard Somers until you came along. And I guess a lot of people are in the same boat.
SETH GROSSMAN: Absolutely. But yet every American once knew all about Richard Somers. Every American school child, who passed the fourth or fifth grade was once taught about Richard Somers. But after 1940, we started to change what we teach our kids in public school. And today, after 80 years of this, hardly any Americans even heard of Richard Somers. And it’s not just about Richard Somers.
I just published a whole history book about how New Jersey got started. The book is called 1676 Project: How New Jersey Shaped America. At one time, almost every story in that book was taught to every American by the 8th grade. And today hardly any of those stories are even mentioned in college, let alone public school.
We Americans pay a price for not knowing our history. Right now, our New Jersey Governor Mikie Sherrill and the Democrats in the State Legislature are talking about forcing every taxpayer in New Jersey to pay an extra tax to pay for so-called reparations to the descendants of Blacks who were slaves more than 160 years ago.
You can’t understand how outrageous and ridiculous this is if you don’t know the history of New Jersey. That is because slavery was normal all over the world for 10,000 years. And it was Christians in America and in Britain who ended it. And the center of the movement to end slavery was right here in South Jersey.
So to force people in South Jersey to pay for something we worked and sacrificed so hard to get rid of is absolutely ludicrous! However, nobody knows that because they don’t know the history. It’s not being taught in schools. They’re teaching our kids a fake history instead. And that’s why I keep talking about my book, 1676 Project. I hate to always be plugging my own book, but this is why it’s so important.
3. Trump added $10 trillion to create America’s $40 trillion national debt.

Above Image: Gamie Tumbling Tower Drinking Game. Each player tries to make the tower higher by removing a block from the bottom and placing it on top. At some point, the tower collapses.
SETH GROSSMAN: In your opening monologue, you were talking about President Trump. It is true that if you have been watching MSNOW, CNN or any of the broadcast networks, or reading the Philadelphia Inquirer or any of the Democrat media, you know that they are all claiming that President Trump and his family are getting rich from insider trading. That is all they talked about last week.
However, if you have been following conservatives and Republicans on social media, like X, Facebook, Instagram and YouTube, they have been talking about something else. – that’s all they’re talking about is, – you know, President Trump enriching himself from insider – trading. – And that’s, you know, that’s what they’re focused on. But if you have been looking at -what leading conservative and Republican influencers have been posting on social media like X, Facebook, Instagram and YouTube you will notice that they were talking about something else–the national debt.
Last week, the federal government announced that that it now owes $40 trillion on its credit card. That’s 40,000 billion dollars. I talked about this a little bit last week. But this is an absolute, fundamental disaster. You cannot defend this. You cannot excuse this. You simply cannot protect America and our freedom against communists, socialists, Muslims, or anybody else when you screw up the economy this bad.
And we also cannot deny that President is responsible for this. Of that $40 trillion debt, $10 trillion, that is one fourth of it, came from President Trump’s six years in office. And he still has two more years to go!
You can’t blame Democrats for this, because President Trump could have stopped this. He had Elon Musk and all of his cutting edge technology on board. And Elon Musk identified every specific area where billions of dollars was bing stolen and where billions of dollars were being wasted, or spent on stuff government has no business doing.
And what did Trump do? Trump sided with the swamp and got rid of Elon Musk. – So you can’t blame the Democrats for that.
And really, you can’t blame Congress for that. Let’s look where all that federal money is going. You see it openly announced in the newspaper every single day. Yesterday, the Press of Atlantic City said federal funds are paying for new tennis courts in Atlantic City. Four million dollars of federal funds are fixing up the Boardwalk in Wildwood. Federal funds paid to pave Atlantic Avenue in Atlantic City, Margate and Longport, and West Avenue in Ocean City. Millions of dollars of federal funds are fixing up Lucy the Elephant in Margate. Federal funds are paying to pump sand in front of million dollar homes in Ocean City and Strathmere. And of course. And of course, a half million dollars of federal funds gave 52 lucky families in Atlantic City $10,000 in so-called scholarships.
Now our Congressman is Jeff Van Drew. And I think he is the best Congressman we can have and he is doing an outstanding job in so many ways. But suppose he started voting against having the federal government spend all this money in the district. He’s have about as much chance of winning the next election as me!
Everybody thinks that if the federal government spends money here, somebody else is paying for it. They forget that we had 535 elected members of Congress. We have a President, 100 Senators, and 435 members of the House. And they all need campaign money and they all need votes. And they all have to buy the votes and money the need to get elected by having the federal government pay for all of this fraud, all of this waste, and all of these local and private things that the federal government has no business doing.
There’s only one person who can possibly put an end to this. And that’s the President. Trump is the only person who can bring sanity back to federal spending. But the President is doing nothing. He isn’t even saying anything about it. Even worse, he is supporting awful candidates for Congress who are behind this reckless spending, and he is going out of his way to defeat good, principled, responsible members of Congress who are trying to get this spending under control
He got Tom Massie defeated in Kentucky and Bob Good in Virginia. And he is supported awful candidates like Byron Donalds in Florida, and Lindsey Graham’s sister in South Carolina, and he did everything he could to defeat good conservative. Almost all of Trump’s endorsements are for swamp critters who are have been corrupting and bankrupting this country for years.
The best I can say is what that great Republican President, Warren Harding, said more than a hundred years ago: “My enemies, I can lick my enemies any day of the week. But my friends, my blankety blank friends, they’re the ones who keep me up walking the floors at night!”
So that’s what I think of – when I’m watching what’s going on right now. It reminds me of that bar game, that drinking game. I forget what they call it. But you build this tower with blocks. Everybody stacks one block on top of the other. And when you turn out of blocks, you have to take blocks out of the bottom and put it on the top. And of course, this is unsustainable. At some point the whole tower collapses. Everything falls apart. And the person who takes out or adds that last block is the loser and has to buy drinks for everyone else.
Well, our whole country, our whole economy, our whole society is going to collapse if we keep doing this. Everybody with their eyes open can see this. But we don’t know when it will happen or who will take out that one block, or add that one block that will make everything collapse. But it is going to happen. It always happened in the past. It has to happen.
When any country’s government spends one trillion dollars a year more than it takes in, its money is worth less and less. At some point it become worthless. Nobody wants it. If you want to buy something from another country, they’re not going to want your worthless paper money. They will want something with value. Either gold, or goods, or money from a responsible country.
And that makes everything even more expensive, and sometimes you can’t even buy things you need even if you have gold.
And of course when the gold, or the goods or the foreign money or cryptocurrency you have is worth more paper dollars, the IRS will tell you you made a capital gain and they will tax you for it. So the government is now taxing people for gains when they have gained nothing. They’re just treading water. Again, this is not sustainable. It cannot go on much longer. But we’ll talk more about this another day.
4. Jihad is only certain way to guarantee forgiveness of sin and eternal life in Paradise.
Next point, last week we talked about moderate Muslims. You talked about a conservative listener who is a Muslim. And he was upset because we never talk about the great majority of so-called moderate Muslims who are moderate, peaceful, and who comply with the law. Why don’t we talk about them.
Just this morning, during the top of the hour headline news, we heard about a 35-year-old woman in New York who just converted to Islam. And what’s the first thing she does? – She decides to to make a plan to kill people. She buys explosives and bomb-making material and makes a plan. Her plan is to dress herself up as a food service worker and then kill a whole lot of people at the State House in Albany, New York. Why is that. Have you heard any mainstream, moderate Muslim leaders ask, “What imam persuaded that woman to become a Muslim?” Did anyone publicly ask “How could this woman possibly think that the first thing you do when you become a Muslim is to start planning to kill people?”
And and and here’s another thing. Last week, you asked me to explain why I never spoke about moderate Muslims, and I gave you a C plus answer. I’d like to give you a better answer today.
I think we agree that most people don’t think much about religion in their day-to-day life when things are going well. Most people try to do the right thing. They try to treat other people fairly. However, whether you are Jewish, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, or Muslim, most people turn to religion when things are not going well. Somebody dies. Somebody is sick. You have loss. You have failure. – The world seems hopeless. You can’t stand on your own. These are the times when most people turn to religion.
And if you turn to Judaism, the rabbi will tell you to follow God’s laws in the Bible, do acts of kindness, do acts of charity and ask for God’s forgiveness. Christians will be told to turn to Jesus, and do acts of kindness and charity that he did when he walked the earth. But if you’re a down and out Muslim, – if especially if you’re a young man, – your girlfriend dumped you, you lost your job, – you flunked out of school, your parents hate – you, you’ve made a total mess of your – life and you’re only 20 years old. What – can you possibly do to – wipe away your mistakes and your sin – and redeem yourself and have honor respect – and eternal life? – Well, every single – Muslim imam, – will openly say that there are many difficult and uncertain ways to avoid Hell fire, and obtain eternal life in Islam. However, there is only one sure way to obtain instant forgiveness for all sins, and to be guaranteed eternity in Paradise. And that is to die while engaged in Jihad which means killing non-believers. And that this is not an extremist or radical belief. – You could talk to any moderate Muslim including – your friend who’s probably listening right now.
Ask them to call in and say publicly that what I just said is not true. Ask them to publicly deny that dying in jihad is the only certain and instant way to obtain forgiveness of all sins, and a guaranteed place in Paradise. Ask them to name a single Hadith or Sunna that denies this?
Now of course, nobody can just start killing non-believers without a jihad. Islamic law is very specific about that. Jihad can only be declared by a Muslim ruler of a Muslim state that has a military force and territory. And with two billion Muslims all over the world, you can always find a Muslim leader somewhere who claims authority to declare jihad. That is why Osama Bin Ladin had to set up his little Muslim state in Afghanistan. That is why they created the Islamic State somewhere in the desert of Iraq. They declared jihad against America. Iran declared jihad against America. The houtis declared jihad against America. From a legal point of view, that means any Muslim who pledges loyalty to any of those groups can start killing Americans and be sure they are doing a genuine jihad. And if they get killed doing a genuine jihad, they avoid hell fires, get instant forgiveness for all their sins, and they are guaranteed eternity in Paradise. Nice work if you can get it.
Zulfi Hoxha grew up in Margate and graduated Atlantic City High School in 2010. In 2015, he joined ISIS (the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria). From there, he made videos explaining how Muslims in the United States could “avoid Hellfires” and enjoy eternal life in Paradise by murdering non-believers.
5. When America was great, people were free to decide what to build on their own land.
I’m basically out of time, but I’d like to close with this one last thought. There is a lot of talk on the radio, and posts on Facebook, and letters to the editor in the Press of Atlantic City and the Ocean City Sentinel on what should get built in all of these towns. Should Ocean City have a new hotel on the site of the old Wonderland amusement park. Should 18 townhouses be built in Egg Harbor Township. Should there be a data center in Mays Landing? What should be built on the empty site of the old airport and baseball stadium at Bader Field in Atlantic City? These are all big political issues in these towns. However, they should not be.
It used to be that where to build these things and whether or not go build them were all private business decisions. We used to say, if someone wants to build a particular hotel on his own land, in a tourist area of town, it was nobody else’s business what kind of hotel he built. If he built a good hotel, he would succeed and make lots of money. If building that kind of hotel was a bad idea, he would lose money, and he’d sell to somebody else who had a better idea.
And if it was a good idea, other people would build other new hotels next door, and everybody’s land would be more valuable. And if they didn’t want to live next to a bunch of hotels, they could buy and build somewhere else and move there. However, this would not be a political issue.
Same thing for a data center. If somebody wants to spend their own money on a data center and pay the same rates for electricity and water as everyone else, what’s the problem. If he makes money, hiks land is more valuable, he pays higher taxes and everyone else pays lower taxes.
If somebody says, I want to build 18 townhouses in Egg Harbor Township, what’s the problem? Well actually there’s a big problem. If you build a new house in a town, and a family moves in with two kids, those kids can go to public school there. And it costs about $25,000 to educate one kid in public school each yeaar. So if the family has two kids, it means the new house will pay about $9,000 in property taxes, but the two kids will cost the town $50,000 each year just for being in public shool.
Now that is a real problem. But the solution is not to stop building houses for families with kids. That’s why houses are so expensive these days. The solution is to stop spending so much money on schools. When America was great, kids got a much better education, and we spent a lot less money on them. Let’s start talking about why public schools today are so ridiculously expensive!
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