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JOHN DEMASI: Talk for the purposes of the show, Saturdays, nine till noon, WPG Talk Radio 95.5FM and 1450AM. We bring in the one and only Seth Grossman, Liberty and Prosperity, his website, libertyandprosperity.com. He has plenty to say about everything. Seth, good morning.
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SETH GROSSMAN: Thank you. Yes. I do. And a lot of the topics that we talk about, you may not see them on the homepage of the libertyandprosperity.com website because we have so much stuff we put on there, it doesn’t fit on the Homepage. But we have a very good Search Bar. So if you type key words on what you’re looking for in that Search Bar, we have hundreds of posts and I’m sure that you’ll find something about what we’re talking about today. And to get our free email update, please sign up to the website. If you have trouble signing up through the website, just email us at info@libertyandprosperity.com and we’ll put you on by hand.
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CRITICAL THINKING AND OPEN DISCUSSIONS GAVE US 95% OF WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT OBAMA’S “TRUMP-RUSSIA COLLUSION” HOAX IN 2016 AND 2017 WITHOUT CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS.
And the discussions we have there are like what you hear on talk radio. It’s like what you used to hear on Rush Limbaugh, and what Mark Levin talks about. One of the most amazing things of this whole document thing with Obama orchestrating the Russia hoax is that we knew 95% of this stuff just from critical thinking. Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh and all of us at Liberty and Prosperity knew what was happening just by reading what was out there in a public and doing critical thinking and analyzing and talking about it. You don’t need an inside smoking gun, to learn stuff. And, you know, you can hear what people say. You could hear what people said yesterday, why they’re not saying stuff today that they said yesterday. You ask certain people didn’t say certain things until they met with other people. It’s amazing just by a group of people talking things out how you can learn so much information again without having the inside information. The document that Tulsi Gabbard came out with really confirmed what all of us already knew, but what all of us were talking about this back in 2016 and 2017.
So there’s really no substitute for these open discussions that you have on Talk Radio and through what we do at Liberty and Prosperity.
JOHN DEMASI: And you do it well, by the way.
SETH GROSSMAN: Thank you. And by the way, I was, chastised a little bit last week. As you know, because I’m yakking with you on the radio, I don’t show up on time for the Liberty and Prosperity breakfasts. So the the so the discussion is led byBrian Fitzherbert, our Zoomer Millennial president. He leads the discussion for the first twenty minutes to half hour before I get there. And we have a nice little generation gap, to see how the Boomers and Zoomers see things and with a few millennials thrown in. It’s So it’s a great mix. So we don’texpect you to come every Saturday morning. But if you come once every month or two, it’s amazing how interesting and productive you’ll find it and how much you learn. Check libertyandprosperity.com.
CALLAWAY 2 YEARS IN PRISON: USED DEMOCRAT VOTE HARVESTING METHODS TO HELP REPUBLICANS.
Meanwhile, last Thursday, Craig Callaway was in the news. Judge Renee Bumb, threw the book at Callaway, gave him the maximum sentence she could possibly give of two years in federal prison. And I don’t know if you notice this, but, but, judge Renee Bumb, the judge who says and I’m not making this up. Her name is really Bumb, B-U-M-B. She’s the chief judge of the Federal District Court in New Jersey. She supervises, I guess you have a dozen judges. She supervises all of them. She’s the lead judge appointed by George Bush in 2006. She absolutely hates Trump. And she’s the judge who ordered the immediate removal of Alina Haba as acting US attorney, for New Jersey. So I don’t know if you followed that.
JOHN DEMASI: Yeah, I did.
SETH GROSSMAN: So Craig Callaway is sort of like a minor offender down here in in South Jersey. So why would the Chief Judge of the whole court system personally sentence, Craig Callaway and throw the book at him? I think I have a good idea. In my opinion, the real crime that Craig Callaway was guilty of is being a black guy using the tactics that Democrats do to get the vote out in every single election, except he did it for Republicans. And, yeah, the actual charge is of the 851 ballots, the messenger ballots that Craig Callaway handled, four of them were claimed to be fraudulent. And what was the evidence they were fraudulent? Well, the four voters said they didn’t remember signing the papers. So what do the papers show? Were there forged signatures on the papers? And, oh, they don’t have the paperwork because the investigators allowed those ballots to be voted and destroyed in the ordinary course. So, all we have is the testimony of the, of the four people who filled out the ballots. And you wonder, when they said we didn’t remember filling out those four ballots out of 851, was that because, Craig Callaway actually did any fraud, or was it because they’re afraid of Marty Small, and didn’t want people to know that they were working with, Craig Callaway? So who knows?

JOHN DEMASI: You know, I really have a problem with Callaway. I I really do. And I know. I know. You know, I and I know that you’ve said he’s, you know, he’s above board with a lot of things, but I got a problem with it. I think I just I think he’s a criminal. That’s just that’s all I can do. You know?
SETH GROSSMAN: Well, it is whatever it is, you know, but in the political terms, when it comes to getting these ballots and I’ve handled ballots, and anyone who’s been in the election knows that, you know, the rules say that when a messenger is supposed to deliver the ballot directly to the county clerk or to the drop box. But every now and then, someone messes up or they don’t do what they said they’re gonna do, and and and the the messenger will will, like, give the ballot to me, the candidate. And that puts you in a dilemma because on the one hand, if you deliver the ballot, you’re breaking the rule, you’re breaking the law. But if you don’t deliver the ballot, then you’re disenfranchising a voter.
Here’s a list of what it took to get proof of four fraudulent ballots or alleged fraudulent ballots out of the 851 that Callaway’s people handled. . The US Attorney actually publicly thanked all the people who did the investigation, which involved three weeks of video surveillance, including surveillance by drones, and thirteen months of investigators knocking on doors going to the 851 people who filled out the ballots. Here are his exact words:
“U.S. Attorney Sellinger credited special agents of the FBI, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Dennehy; the FBI’s Atlantic City Resident Agency’s Public Corruption Task Force, including the Atlantic County Prosecutor’s Office, under the direction of Prosecutor William Reynolds; the Atlantic City Police Department, under the direction of Officer in Charge Chief James A. Sarkos; and the New Jersey State Police, under the direction of Superintendent Col. Patrick J. Callahan; as well as special agents of the U.S. Department of Labor, Office of Inspector General, Northeast Region, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Jonathan Mellone; the Department of Agriculture – Office of Inspector General, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Bethanne M. Dinkins; and postal inspectors of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, Philadelphia Division, under the direction of Inspector in Charge Christopher A. Nielsen, with the investigation leading to the charge.”
So those are all the federal, state and local agents working for thirteen months with three weeks of video surveillance to find out that four people said, “We don’t remember filling out a ballot for Craig Callaway”. So they just sentenced Callaway to spend two years in federal prison.
But I wonder if because they went overboard like that and by having the Chief Judge who removed Alina Haba, that maybe this will come to Trump’s attention and maybe he’ll pardon Callaway. We’ll see if that if it turns out that way.
JOHN DEMASI: Well, well, I I know he’s hoping that happens.
ATLANTIC CITY PUBLIC HOUSING CORRUPTION: PARETO AND “POLITICAL ECONOMY”.
SETH GROSSMAN: Meanwhile, back to local matters. The Atlantic City Housing Authority. Harry Hurley did an interview last Tuesday with Matt Doherty, its former director. Thanks to Congressman Jeff Van Drew, the federal government, the Trump administration, is taking over the Atlantic City Housing Authority.
We all know the awful things going on there. The public housing Stanley Holmes Village had deplorable conditions. The Authority paid one consultant 856,000. It paid one attorney $963,000. It had $7,400,000 for no bid contracts.
And, you know, a lot of people are drawing this conclusion: “Well, thank God the feds are stepping in. This proves that Atlantic City can’t govern itself”.
But, remember, this is just a Band-Aid. And as far as Atlantic City governing itself, it’s important to remember that Atlantic City has been under state control since 2011. So for the past fourteen years, it was Chris Christie or Governor Murphy running Atlantic City.
But the real problem here, is, this whole idea of public housing. When you have the government run housing, it’s almost like the government running a supermarket. You know, you have to ask yourself, well, why would you want the government to run a supermarket? And if you say, well, it’s because prices are too high at private stores, or too many supermarkets in town shut down. There’s no place to shop.

That means there’s something wrong with why the government is forcing the supermarkets to be too expensive. Or why they can’t afford to stay in business.
And in Atlantic City, we know why. These supermarkets were too expensive because, real estate taxes are too high. And there was no enforcement of the law for shoplifting, and theft and vandalism. And, you know, these stores have to deal with a, a 2% margin profit margin. So if they’re losing all this money from theft, they’re going to charge high prices or they’ll go out of business.
Well, it’s the same way with housing. Normally, people should be able to afford a house. And when you and I were growing up, anyone could afford a house for 25% of their income. So if suddenly housing becomes too expensive and costs more than 50% of your income, and most people can’t afford to buy a house or rent a good apartment, having the government provide housing is not a solution, just like having a government supermarket is no solution when private supermarkets can’t stay in business in certain cities.
You have to say, well, what’s wrong out there? What’s government doing? Then you find out that housing is too expensive because real estate taxes are too high. Zoning laws and permit laws are messed up and make it too expensive to build or fix anything. And the laws, that, the Democrats have, put statewide make it impossible to, to evict bad tenants. It takes forever and very expensive. Landlords have to hire lawyers and consultants and keep all these records that only big corporate landlords getting tax dollars from all sorts of government programs can afford to do.
And you might say, well, don’t put a bad tenant in to begin with. But if you want to go into the criminal background of of applicants, you can get sued if you don’t do that the right way. You need a whole, elaborate procedure on how you even get a criminal background check on prospective tenants. You can’t get an honest reference from previous landlords. A lot of times, they won’t give you an honest answer because they’re afraid of getting sued!
So all that stuff drives up the cost of housing. And so we have the government running these housing projects. And that’s just like the government running a supermarket or the government running motor vehicles., you have something that they call, political economy.

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And it works like this, that if comes up with some corrupt proposal to steal a million dollars from the government,they make a million dollars and they’re rich. They can afford to spend ten or twenty percent of that million dollars to buy the votes and the politicians they need to get support for that proposal.
But what if a citizen wants to stand up and stop somebody from stealing a million dollars from the government? What benefit does a citizen get by keeping the government honest? And the answer is, almost nothing.
Let’s say if you live in a city with 600,000 people, let’s say you know somebody is stealing $600,000 from the government. What benefit do you get? You spend money, you write letters to the editor, you go to meetings, and you make a lot of enemies. And if you succeed, what do you win? You save one dollar on your tax bill next year. Who in their right mind is going to do that?
So the theory Vilfredo Pareto came up with in 1906 was that anything the government does is going to be wasteful and corrupt. What is the solution? The solution is to have the government do as little as possible. And that’s exactly what Benjamin Franklin and the rest of our founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the Constitution in 1787. That’s why we have a constitution. And that’s why the government is supposed to be limited to just doing certain things that ordinary people can’t do for themselves.
But once we got the idea that, well, I want the government to do something for me, because someone else is going to end up paying for it. Once you get into that mentality, what you get is what we have in New Jersey and America today. And everything is expensive. And nobody can afford anything. So we say “Look at all this theft, waste, fraud, and abuse in government. Let’s get rid of those crooks”. And when we get rid of those crooks, we get new people come who come in do the same thing. So if you want to get out of this revolving door, you have to go back to basics and say, let’s just have the government do things people can’t do for themselves, and that that’s really the only long range solution.
JOHN DEMASI: Boy, you said it there. Okay.
ISRAEL LOSING PROPAGANDA WAR IN GAZA.
SETH GROSSMAN: Meanwhile, the war in Gaza is really coming back to Trump again. The big story for political insiders is that Trump and Republicans are losing the support of generation Z. That’s younger people, people under the age of 35. And a lot of that lost support is from Epstein, but they’re saying that the biggest loss of support is because the country, and especially younger people, are turning against Israel and turning against Jews. And they think that Trump is too pro-Jewish and too pro-Israel. And, and really, it means the young people, are really becoming more and more anti-Semitic. And it’s easy to understand that, because the war in Gaza, most of that war is not being fought in Gaza. It’s being fought in our TV screens here in America. And Israel and America are getting clobbered.

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And really, long before this propaganda war got to TV, for the past two weeks, if you were under the age of 35 and got your news from Instagram and TikTok and YouTube, all you saw was images of starving children in Gaza. And if you watched, ABC News last night, you see that this is now mainstream.
On ABC News last night, you saw this whole story about children starving in Gaza. And and why is that going on? Because it’s not just about Gaza. It’s not just about Palestinians.
There’s a certain sect of Islam. The Arabs call it Salafi or Wahhabi. In India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, the call it the Deoband School. And according to these, this interpretation of Islam, the whole world, not just Israel, must comply with Islamic law, which they call Sharia. Women must be covered and subjugated. No pork is allowed. Nobody can criticize or joke about Islam, and Islam must dominate the whole world.
And how do you get to that point? Through jihad. And jihad is total war by all means necessary. And to them, jihad is the most important thing in your life. In their words, “Jihad is the pinnacle of Islam”.
And that has special appeal to sinners, failures and psychopaths. This doctrine tells them, “Whatever failure you are, whatever sinner you are, if you die in jihad, you are immediately forgiven of all sins and spend eternity in Paradise”.
It means that if you are a child and you starve to death or if you get killed because your house is bombed while your dad is shooting grenades and rockets out of your house, you’re also guaranteed eternal life in Paradise.
So that is why it is OK to starve your own people. If videos of your own children starving shocks world opinion, and force Israel to stop fighting, Hamas wins the war.
Hamas looks at its own starving children the way Japanese looked at their suicide bombers, their kamikazes during World War II. It is good to commit suicide, it is good to die for the Emperor if you kill enough Americans to stop their invasion and win the war.
We talked about Yuri Bezmenov and psychological warfare a lot before. It is the most powerful and effect method of warfare today. Our enemies are masters of psychological warfare. Most Americans know nothing about it.
Israel wants to get food into Gaza without Hamas distributing that food. Hamas is shooting people trying to get any food not going to them. They want control of the food and they also want these photos and videos of Palestinian children starving. And United Nations, is siding with Hamas. The UN is saying, we’re not sending any food into Gaza unless the Americans and Israelis stop sending food without going through us and without going through Hamas.
When Hamas controls the food, they only give it to people who support Hamas. Anybody who doesn’t do what Hamas tells them to do goes hungry or get shot. But of course, nobody sees photos or videos of those deaths. They don’t get on TikTok, YouTube or Instagram.
So it’s a horrible situation. And Israel and America and those of us who see what’s going on are not doing a good job of getting the word out. And we are getting clobbered by people who hate Trump, hate Jews, hate Israel, and hate America.
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