From Seth Grossman Radio Message on WPGTalkRadio.com. 95.5FM and 1450AM near Atlantic City, NJ. “Talk With A Purpose” with John DeMasi on September 13, 2025:
SETH GROSSMAN: Now let’s go to the Charlie Kirk murder. And I wish I were as optimistic as you. But assassinations and murder do change history, if we allow it. Look at Abraham Lincoln. He was murdered a month or two before he started his second term. And before he ran for re-election, Lincoln picked a racist white Democrat to be his Vice-President. Lincoln was a Republican. And the man Lincoln picked was an absolute white racist. But Lincoln picked him to be his running mate to pick up enough votes to win in border states like Kentucky and Maryland. Lincoln thought he needed Democrat votes to win the election.
So Lincoln won the election for a second term. But he had Andrew Johnson, this white racist Democrat as his Vice-President. And he was President of the United States for four years after Abraham Lincoln. So murdering Abraham Lincoln did change history and it did kill Lincoln’t dream.
Abraham Lincoln’s plan was to have real reparations paid for by real slave owners. Lincoln and General Sherman both had a plan to break up the slave owner plantations and give, each black family a share of that land and surplus army mules to work the land. That would have been real reparations paid for by the people who actually profited from slave labor to the people who were actually slaves. That was the time for reparations to happen.
You can’t have reparations today. That is because the guilty slaveowners are long gone, and the actual victims are long gone.
But because John Wilkes Booth, a Democrat celebrity murdered Abraham Lincoln, that never happened. And so the slave owners kept their land and their power. They formed the original KKK. They poisoned race relations, and all these bad things happened. It took America more than a hundred years to recover from that assassination, and we’re still really not out of it.
So sadly, the man who murdered Abraham Lincoln did change history for the worse.
I followed Charlie Kirk for a long time. Basically, the Democrats killed the man who could have saved America. Because you get a guy like Charlie Kirk once in a lifetime. I am firmly convinced, and if anyone wants to argue with me, I don’t have time on this morning’s radio program, but I will do it any day of the week. I am firmly convinced that Charlie Kirk was was another Abraham Lincoln. He was already a Martin Luther King, and he should be recognized for that.
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Charlie Kirk had a rare gift of reading, combining what he reads with critical thinking, and then testing his knowledge by going out every day to these hateful leftist college campuses and testing his ideas. Charlie Kirk was what they used to call an auto-didact. Self-taught. And that self-taught education is the best you can get. Leonardo DaVinci, Sir Isaac Newton, and Benjamin Franklin were all self-taught like that.
And as Benjamin Franklin pointed out, when you have ideas, and then have open conversations with people who have different opinions, those political opinions collide, and sparks of truth fly out and political light is obtained. And by the way, that’s why Rush Limbaugh was as good as he was. Because he also did a lot of reading, he also did a lot of critical thinking, and he was constantly talking to people with different opinions and dealing with it and he got smarter every time he had those arguments.
Now, of course, are you going to be right a 100% of the time? Well, no. You’re going to be wrong a lot, but that’s the whole point of the conversation. When you have a conversation in good faith and somebody makes a point that you didn’t think of, you get smarter. And Americans used to do that and and that’s why Americans used to be a lot smarter than they are today.
Above Image: Ever since Charlie Kirk’s “Student Action Summit” last July in Tampa, leftist media repeatedly reported that Charlie Kirk was a dangerous threat to their power. They reminded me of mafia bosses. They rarely ordered gang members to kill someone. They would simply say, “I have a stone in my shoe”.
So, let’s ask ourselves. “Who killed Charlie Kirk?” And we all know that the guy who shot the bullets, was the chump. He was inspired to do it because it thought he thought it would make him important. But basically, if you want to know who killed Charlie Kirk, just look at all the people who couldn’t contain their glee and their cheerfulness when they found out Charlie Kirk was dead. They’re the ones who did it.
The media people, the college professors, especially the college professors, the teachers, the teachers’ unions, all those folks. And if you followed the New York Times, MSNBC and ABC and CBS and, CNN for the past three months, you saw them put a target on the back of Charlie Kirk. It was a steady drumbeat of hate. It reminded me what they did to destroy Kate Smith and God Bless America. It is what they did to Trump.
And so they started with their hate for Trump. Trump is evil. Trump is a king. Trump is a Fascist. Trump is a racist, Trump is horrible. We have to do something. We have to do something about Trump. And that’s when they shifted to Charlie Kirk.
They said day after day, how did Trump get elected. Going after Trump is not enough. We need to get all those MAGA people who helped Trump get elected. And who is the worst of those MAGA people. Why it’s Charlie Kirk! Charlie Kirk is going around the country talking to young people. He’s telling them to ignore their woke professors, and ignore their woke teachers and textbooks and media and Hollywood movies and support someone as despicable as Donald Trump.
And if Charlie Kirk keeps doing that, we may have a generation of young people getting another Donald Trump elected. And over and over again, I saw those talking heads on TV asking, “What can we do about Charlie Kirk?” And this was going on for three or four months. And that reminded me of those mafia movies. I reminded me of Becket.
And you know the code words that gangsters use when they want to kill somebody. They don’t tell their people, go kill that guy. They say stuff like, “I have a stone in my shoe. Can somebody get that stone out of my shoe?” You had the same thing with King Henry in Becket. He said “Will anyone rid me of this troublesome priest?”
And you had the same thing with the Zulfi Hoxhai, the Islamic terrorist from Margate who went to Syria and made these videos. It is so easy to kill a kaffir, a non-believer. Doesn’t anyone in America want to kill a kaffir or a non-believer to avoid Hell fire and go to Paradise instead? You can run one over with a car. You can push him off a building?
And then in these situations, a million people hear the message and ignore it. However, it only takes one person to actually do it. And then when somebody else, you know, somebody actually gets killed, they say, oh, this is a random murder. We we have no idea what caused it.
But basically, as far as I’m concerned, the, the media was targeting Charlie Kirk using their little code words.
And you know, the other thing Charlie Kirk did, and another bunch of people who hated Charlie Kirk were those college professors. Charlie would go to the college campuses where the radical leftist professors had absolute control. And he’d go out on the, you know, in front of cafeteria. And by the way, I know this because I did the same thing at Stockton for a while. But I wasn’t as good at it as Charlie Kirk. Stockton told me, oh, no. We we can’t give you a table, and you can’t do this, and you can’t do that. And I didn’t have the patience to push the issue. I gave up trying. But If I knew that people were going to be killed because of this, I may have sued people like Charlie Kirk did and raise money to do it. But I didn’t.
But Charlie Kirk persisted. He got the permits. He got the money. He went day after day to these college campuses. He would debate the professors. He would debate the students. He would make them look like the fools they were. And then Charlie Kirk would video these discussions and post them on YouTube and TikTok and Instagram and he would change peoples’ minds. And you can see how angry and hateful all of these “peace and love” and “no hate here” professors and brainwashed students got.
I saw their hate first hand at Stockton. I saw it with some of the high school teachers in Mainland and Egg Harbor Township, and Absegami and Ocean City. Remember when you had, you know, the Black Lives Matter protest at Stockton? Yes. And one student posted a notice on the bulletin board that said it’s okay to be white. Now, when the when we boomers went to college, you’d see all sorts of stuff on the bulletin board and the professors would actually discuss it. Oh, here’s an issue. Let’s talk about the pros. Let’s talk about the cons. But it’s Stockton University. It was like the person who put a poster that said “It’s okay to be white” committed the crime of the century. Stockton called that person a criminal. Stockton called the prosecutor’s office to investigate. They checked video. They checked fingerprints. They did everything they could to find that horrible person who posted something that said “It’s OK to be white”.
Remembere during COVID when Stockton had those Zoom classes? And one student had a picture of Donald Trump behind him. Remember what they did to him? They charged him with a hate crime of cyberbullying. They threatened to kick him out of school and and ruin his record and take away his credits if he didn’t publicly apologize and take a month of re-education classes.
I saw that same hatred. When I went there, you know, Liberty and Prosperity tried to set up a club there. We had an information table. And we were approached by angry professors who wanted to report us for a “bias incident”. Our crime was handing out postcards with the Declaration of Independence on them. Imaging, we are charged with a hate crime for telling students to read the Declaration of Independence at a college that’s named after a signer of the Declaration of Independence!
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Great article!