January 7, 2012 Saturday Agenda


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  1. Robert Marchenoir: I wish Clare Lopez would spare us the B.S. about “the wishes of the Iranian pepole”, and establishing in Iran a “secular, tolerant and pluralistic regime”.Hasn’t this deluded policy of bringing the “good” to foreign pepoles demonstrated its folly in Iraq and Afghanistan ?Yes it has and provided convincing proof that so far as Muslim majority nations are concerned the era of nation building is truly over for once and all time. All this useless encouragement of Muslims to adopt secular Democracy is just so much lipstick on a pig.You can trowel on the cosmetics thicker than Tammy Faye Bakker and none of it will change the underlying porcine nature of the problem. The Muslim pig will always want to wallow in its shari’a mud. Afghanistan and Iraq have proven this beyond a shadow if a doubt and no further testing of this principle is needed.The good we should be bringing is security for the West regardless of the expense to Islam and Muslim quality of life. There is absolutely nothing we can do short of emptying our collective bank accounts into Islam’s pockets to alleviate Muslim suffering in Islamic lands. Muslim suffering is built into Islam like girders in a skyscraper. In fact, some Islamic clerics even hold that: What [the late bin Laden confederate] Al-Ayyeri sees now is a “clean battlefield” in which Islam faces a new form of unbelief. This, he labels “secularist democracy.” This threat is “far more dangerous to Islam” than all its predecessors combined. The reasons, he explains in a whole chapter, must be sought in democracy’s “seductive capacities.” This form of “unbelief” persuades the pepole that they are in charge of their destiny and that, using their collective reasoning, they can shape policies and pass laws as they see fit. That leads them into ignoring the “unalterable laws” promulgated by God for the whole of mankind, and codified in the Islamic shariah (jurisprudence) until the end of time.The goal of democracy, according to Al-Ayyeri, is to “make Muslims love this world, forget the next world and abandon jihad .” If established in any Muslim country for a reasonably long time, democracy could lead to economic prosperity, which, in turn, would make Muslims “reluctant to die in martyrdom” in defense of their faith. [emphasis added]So long as Muslims accept jihad without objection, they will also demand their own impoverishment.THERE IS NO AMOUNT OF WESTERN WEALTH OR SECURITY TO BE GIVEN ISLAM THAT CAN REVERSE THIS FUNDAMENTAL EQUATION.Again, all of the West’s efforts should be directed towards enhancing the security of its own borders without regard for Muslim sensibilities or, even, their large scale suffering. In fact, all indications are that only suffering on the very largest scale will have a deterrent effect or pose any chance of bringing about even a slight moderation of Islam.Instead, we have done the exact opposite. Western militaries at tremendous cost of life and treasure have brought a degree of relative prosperity and helped institute stable shari’a states (or whatever mayhem is supposed to pass for such a thing), in the countries of our enemies.It is a losing proposition to confer human rights upon a group that has absolutely no respect for them and would just as soon deprive you of them utterly.What we must confer upon our Islamic enemies is a deep and enduring dread of incurring even another iota of our wrath. If this cannot be achieved without the use of nuclear weapons, then so be it. Were the positions switched and Islam had all the nuclear bombs while the West had few or none we would not even be discussing this right now.

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